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Discipline Priest: First Impression of the New Priest Talent Trees in Dragonflight
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28/07/2022 à 06:00
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AutomaticJak
With the reveal of the Dragonflight Priest talent trees, our Discipline Priest writer AutomaticJak provides initial reactions and thoughts on this revamped system. We break down the Discipline Priest talent trees, discussing the new talents and providing some sample builds. Join us as we predict how this class could play in Dragonflight!
To learn about the best PvE talent builds in Dragonflight for this class, and export these builds into the game, please check out our Discipline, Holy, and Shadow Priest class guides:
Discipline Priest Talent BuildsHoly Priest Talent BuildsShadow Priest Talent Builds
Priest Dragonflight Class Tree
Priest Dragonflight Talents - What’s New?
For the class tree, Discipline has some interesting damage synergies very early on.
Attaque mentale
,
and
Mot de l’ombre : Mort
synergies to increase their efficiency and defensive values from an early point. The spec starts off strong with hard breaks between damage and healing, even allowing Discipline to take advantage of a lot of synergies for
Rénovation
/
Prière de guérison
but strangely enough not one that makes
Prière de guérison
an instant cast ability since that T2 trait was lost in Dragonflight.
Infusion de puissance
of course returns, as well as
Prêtresse des Jumeaux du soleil
which are both required to spec through in order to get to the
Disparition
defensive from Shadowlands'
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. Almost everything in the Priest class tree is available in Shadowlands, the only difference is the options and selections being vastly improved.
Volonté inébranlable
is one of the few non-Shadowlands points and I omitted it earlier because it has such minimal impact for Discipline.
does not replace
Soins rapides
so you will not benefit from the reduced cast speed there, which leaves only
Châtiment
which already casts very rapidly.
Mot de pouvoir : Vie
was one talent that I was incredibly interested in for Discipline as an overly safe option for Mythic+, but after testing, I am exceedingly disappointed in. The 20% health threshold is incredibly low, it seems to be a hasted cooldown for some strange reason and it doesn't seem to heal for very much even when used correctly. Would highly recommend a higher threshold of 40-50% health with a lengthier cooldown to properly be an "emergency button" to save an ally from death as opposed to a rotational key. Finally,
Rénovation
does not seem to do much healing on its own, relying primarily on
Bénédiction
procs to produce the "free" output, but with a cast time associated with
Prière de guérison
this seems very unattractive for Discipline to take advantage of with any regularity.
Priest Dragonflight Talent Tree - First Impressions
The Priest talent tree looks to be fairly well-made but there are some major issues that I have noticed throughout my alpha testing. Firstly,
Purge du mal
does not replace
Mot de l’ombre : Douleur
which causes some annoying issues in synergistic talents as mentioned above. Discipline receiving
Prière de guérison
baseline seems interesting but when there is a
cast time
attached to it, it starts making the ability less and less interesting for the spec to utilize. There are also major inconsistencies with damage dealing abilities in the class tree for Discipline. Mainstays like
Ombrefiel
and
Jeux d’esprit
produce
Expiation
output, but
Reflet cristallin
and
Prisme d’Ombreflamme
do not, making these options considerably less desirable.
With these new class trees it
looks
at first impression that the spec has gained some additional options or variety to utilize legendaries from Shadowlands that we frequently eschewed, but when they do not interact with
Expiation
or are supremely lowly tuned then there is no reason to even touch the surface of these other abilities and it feels almost like you fall back into the same-old song and dance. I believe that Discipline
must
have additional
Expiation
synergy in their class tree to promote actual variety in gameplay.
Discipline Priest Spec Talent Tree
Discipline Dragonflight Talents - What’s New?
Discipline has received a few new talent options but a ton of augments to existing talents. For
Expiation
modifiers there are increases to duration for
or
Mot de pouvoir : Bouclier
in
Solatium
and
Compensation
.
Concordat des ombres
is back with additional modifications, this time allowing you to cast Holy spells but at reduced effectiveness making the ability more flexible if you need to cast a dispel for example. Additional buffs for
Concordat des ombres
include duration increases and a spell-school change to
Pénitence
allowing it to be cast at full effectiveness during
Concordat des ombres
duration.
Purge du mal
is now independent of DStar/Halo allowing for additional DoT spreading and more consistent long-term DoT duration making it much easier to manage. Unfortunately it does not replace
Mot de l’ombre : Douleur
oddly enough, meaning that
Affres de la douleur
will not synergize with
Purge du mal
. Furthermore, DStar/Halo both have a Shadow-spell modifier with the one for DStar in particular dealing a hefty DoT which synergizes with
Concordat des ombres
but does not currently produce
Expiation
healing.
Courroux de la Lumière
makes a massive return to the game for Discipline, allowing for an excellent burst alongside
Jeux d’esprit
staying on the Priest class tree as well.
Pénitence
has tons of modifiers allowing it to be a damage spell, to spread an additional
Purge du mal
, increase the damage from
Puissance du côté obscur
, and additional bolts from
Pénitence
in
Discipline inflexible
. All of these modifiers allow for significantly more damage from baseline Priest abilities, shifting the power of your damaging abilities from covenant spells to baselines priest spells, more work needs to be done to complete this rebalance as
Expiation
output in general on Alpha feels fairly low but that is fairly normal in a 5 man environment.
On the utility side, Discipline will have access to
Évangélisme
AND
Clémence
for the first time ever. That damage reduction, paired alongside
Mot de pouvoir : Barrière
will make Discipline even more powerful in a raid environment and could encourage double Discipline compositions if
Clémence
continues to be stackable. In Castle Nathria in particular, but frequently throughout raid progression, Discipline was heavily reliant on
Innervation
s to afford the high costs of powerful ramps. Now with the updated talent system, Discipline can flex into Holy talents such as
Illumination
to improve their mana regen. Even though
Lumière et ombre intérieures
is a mandatory pick in our talent tree, it does not seem to have as flexible of use as PvP because of the GCD restriction upon it, leading many Discipline Priests to just sit in the Inner Shadow form full-time instead of swapping stances.
Discipline Priest Dragonflight Talent Tree - First Impressions
With these new class trees it
looks
at first impression that the spec has gained some additional options or variety to utilize legendaries from shadowlands that we frequently eschewed, but when they do not interact with
Expiation
or are supremely lowly tuned then there is no reason to even touch the surface of these other abilities and it feels almost like you fall back into the same-old song and dance. While early, I believe that Discipline must have additional
Expiation
synergy in their class tree to promote actual variety in gameplay.
Discipline Priest Dragonflight Talents for Raiding - How Strong is It?
View in Dragonflight Talent Calc
The above Discipline build is a fairly-standard setup that emphasizes
Expiation
extensions from
Évangélisme
to setup large scale burst output from
Courroux de la Lumière
or
Jeux d’esprit
. It maintains strong damage reduction from
Mot de pouvoir : Barrière
and
Clémence
while taking a ton of modifiers to increase
Pénitence
healing.
Notably,
Extase
is omitted on the spec side. This could easily be taken in exchange for lower
Schisme
duration or less
Pénitence
damage. It feels very poor at the moment being forced into low-tuned
Mot de pouvoir : Radiance
buffs in order to get that 2nd charge of Radiance we are all so used to, and many of the modifiers for
Suppression de la douleur
are just incredibly poor in value.
Exaltation
is quite terrible and the loss of additional
Expiation
extensions from
Extase
is especially noticed, meaning
Carapace spirituelle
is really never much of an option.
This tree feels fairly devoid of choice for raid gameplay. Trading out a bit of damage for some shielding but not really doing much to alter gameplay in substantive ways. From a raid perspective even the class tree seems a bit too focused/simple on what Discipline will select. There's no incentive to select increases to
Prière de guérison
output like
Bénédiction
when there is a casttime attached and zero
Expiation
interactions.
Nova sacrée
is still a very poor spell and AoE damage doesn't translate well into healing.
In general this seems like a decent upgrade from the existing talent trees but there does need to be some polish added to low-tuned talent points like
Mot de pouvoir : Radiance
,
Suppression de la douleur
, and
Extase
supports to make them more desirable or just feel less-bad when being pushed into taking them like in the case of
Mot de pouvoir : Radiance
. On the Priest side there are many damaging abilities that do not produce
Expiation
output and if they did, they would be substantially more attractive to take.
Overall, Discipline looks slightly more defensive, similar in mobility, with more options to produced sustained
Expiation
output than the burst-heavy nature of Shadowlands and brings slightly better utility with
Clémence
. I don't expect many overhauls from here and I don't really think its needed for Discipline but I would like for the devs to very early on give attention to the rotten branches of the tree like
Reflet cristallin
to make these options feel more like options.
Interested in playing Discipline Priest now? Check our out live guide for Discipline Priest!
Discipline Priest Guide
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