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Comment by 3493

And here I was thinking that I told my pet to kill when i sent it in to fight...damn maybe i told it to cuddle, glad this spell is here to clear up the confusion.

Comment by 19116

Does the kill command damage count aggro towards you or your pet? I am a hard time determining which.

Comment by 34240

If your looking for a good macro to free up some button space, try this one. It combines pet attack, hunters mark and kill command in 1 button.

/petattack
/petdefensive
/castsequence reset=combat/target Hunter's Mark, kill command, kill command, kill command, kill command

It basically sends your pet in, puts in defensive stance (maybe remove that for instances) and casts hunters mark. Subsequent presses of the button will issue a kill command. Careful not to spam it as you will reset back to hunters mark. If you kill the mob/change target, it will reset back to hunters mark. This can happen quite easily as you have to wait for the global cooldown before the command is issued, so keep an eye on the icon before you press.

Great for soloing but use cautiously in instances.

Comment by 27639

does this scale with AP as well?

Comment by 58637

As of now i am a Draenei Hunter lv 43; 31/0/3 going BM spec i was wondering if there are any other BM hunters who care to tell me if i should invest two talent points to Focus Fire or if i should move it to some where else like thick hide, or aspect of the hawk.

Comment by Rockfall

I'm assuming that it means that the kill command will no cause the pet to strike its current target, rather than the hunter's target (which may be different).

Comment by 220854

If u want something (or some1) to die, use this+BW+stun and you have a very, very good headstart with dmg.

Comment by elitearthas

I thought this was supposed to be buffed ?

Comment by creatorslave

Kill command now costs 40focus. 37 with glyph

Also Kill Command seems to work when target is out of sight(mean behind a wall or pillar).
Nice for bg and arena. U cant hide anymore!

Comment by Monnezza

Kill Command is the signature ability for BM since 4.0.1
During Bestial Wrath you'll want to spend on KC any bit of focus you can spare.

It may be useful to point that your pet doesn't benefit from any proc granting you "ranged" attack power. The talented Bestial Wrath has a rather short cooldown and you'll probably want to use it as soon as it is available (provided that you are nearly full on focus) instead of waiting for procs.

It is a situational ability for SV and MM instead, since it does much less damage and is outperformed by far by Arcane Shot. You can use it e.g. while fleeing from Sindragosa's Blistering Cold if you're caught while full on focus and aren't confident with using Arcane Shot while strafing or jump-shooting.

Comment by 259313

This ability is useful in that while being an offensive ability, it's usable while under the effects of Deterrence.

Can and should be taken advantage of in both PvE and PvP situations.

Comment by TwistedNether

Okay im getting some serious glitches with it...It keeps saying "You can't do that while stunned." everytime i try to use it and Niether myself nor my pet are stunned or fighting enemies capable of stunning.

Comment by 119130

just an FYI. if your pet can one shot a mob with kill command you wont be able to loot it. (found out while leveling skinning)

Comment by 212003

I occasionally get the error message 'can't do that while stunned' while attempting to use this, but neither me or my pet are stunned... any fixes?

Comment by 292491

I need your help to verify a theory on the current bug of Kill Command

Today i was fighting scorpids in tanaris and i started to recive the usual
'can't do that while stunned' reply. What i noticed however was that it was linked
to a specific type of enemy. Namely the Duneclaw Lasher.

A quick search showed me that the lasher uses... Lash
More research proved that the other times i could not use Kill Command
was when fighting enemies with this ability.

What i need you all to do is to verify if you to have problems with these enemies,
as well as other enemies with similar abilities.

After a little more detailed research i found out that the spells duration is 2 minutes !
That is on the the knockdown part. The disarm part is only 5 seconds.
This might be what is "blocking" the use of Kill Command.
Question is if this is "working as intended" or if it is a oversight ?

For now, i will avoid enemies with Lash or similar abilities.

Comment by 510578

Omen threat meter tells me that the threat from this ability is applied to me, not my pet.

Comment by Aeni

I was wondering about the formula to calculate the damage output of Kill Command...

(849 + (RAP * 0.516))*1

This does not match the values which my spellbook gives in my current setting. Also, the formula is a bit wonky, because you're multiplying the values within the parentheses with a 1 ... which is redundant in my opinion.

EG1: Wowhead formula: (849 + (12942 * 0.516) ) = 7527 (rounding off)

In-game spell book: Kill Command, 9044
In-game paper doll: 12942 RAP (w/o AoTH, no other buffs)

EG2: Wowhead formula: (849 + (15542 * 0.516) ) = 8869 (rounding off)

In-game spell book: Kill Command, 10655
In-game paper doll: 15542 RAP (w/ AoTH, no other buffs)

Comment by 427323

25 yard range in the MoP beta so far :o

The BM hunter in me rejoices :D

Comment by 649382

I hope hunters appreciate the pvp utility of this spell. It should be used: 1.) against pillar huggers LoS'ing you, and 2.) when you're the pillar hugger trying to survive, but you still want to deal damage to your opponent.

I feel this is one of the more neglected spells in pvp that would've saved your butt countless times had you thought to use it.

Comment by JopoFirecrack

Prowl increases Kill Command damage, and it's possible to have it hit exactly at the same time as Claw as your cat/spirit beast un-Prowls. Meaning KC & Claw can both benefit from the 20% damage increase. I've posted my results on the Prowl comments.

Pet Charge does not increase Kill Command damage though.

Edit: Why the downvote? Prowl still increases KC damage.

Comment by BaZERGer

An issue with this spell seems to come and go, where you can't use this spell without having a hostile target on, despite it using the pet's current target as the target for it.

A way to avoid this preventing you from using it, is making the Kill Command spell into a macro:
/cast Kill Command

Comment by muffe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_%28command%29

Comment by drowpower

Enter arena stealthed, issue the Kill Command and you keep the stealth, only the pet will get out.
Same for Intimidation (!), Freezing Trap, Explosive trap (only with the Glyph of Explosive trap), and the not-damaging pet abilities, like Spirit Mend.
Experiment and have fun :)

Comment by Pipkins

-Although you "give the command" as it were, the damage is credited to your pet so if you are fighting multiple enemies while soloing make sure to directly attack the one your pet is tanking as Kill Command won't earmark the target as your kill, meaning you will not be able to loot it.
-If cast while your pet is not withing the 25yd range of your target it orders your pet to attack. Once within range however, your pet will not automatically follow the Kill Command and it will have to be recast.
-Kill Command directs your pet to your target, it does not order it to attack it's own target, if you meant to start attacking a new target and left your pet to finish off an almost dead one.
-The Hunter's Mark effect is applied with your pet's attack, so if for whatever reason your pet can't get within range of the target the mark won't be put up either.

Comment by Bogdanov89

Kill Command does really low damage compared to Arcane Shot until you reach MoPandaria levels.

A couple of problems KC encounters during leveling:

1. It costs 40 focus compared to Arcane Shot's 30 focus.

2. It does very similar damage compared to Arcane Shot, but much lower if the target is actually heavily armored.

3. Arcane Shot can make great use of the Thrill of the Hunt talent due to massive cost reduction, thus even greater damage/cost ratio is achieved.

4. You can fire AS at any target within 40 yards, while the KCommand requires your pet to be within 25 yards of the target, and it can not hit specific targets like flying... and on some fights your pet's AI is just awful.

KCommand is great at max level, but during leveling Arcane Shot tends to greatly outperform KC - especially if you take the Thrill of the Hunt talent.

Comment by Exorsist

This is BM Hunter's #1 skill. You should always prioritize this in your rotation.

Yesterday I was questing in north of Elemental Throne in Nagrand and my bow broke after several wipes in dungeons earlier. What did I do? USE MY FISTS and this skill. I felt like a drunk dwarf riding a bear into battle.
Successfully completed all the quests and then repaired my bow. It felt quite useless.

Comment by kabookiejoe

Wish this spell had a longer range or at very least when used the pet will run at target regardless of distance and apply

Comment by rodalpho

The devs told us exactly how BM abilities work in PvP at the link(s) below.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747314610#2

I'm pasting it here as they typically delete the beta forums after release.

Cobra Shot deals 75% damage in PvP
Kill Command deals 80% damage in PvP

Comment by 2picnic

they finally changed the sound effect on this spell to be more subtle. it used to make an indescribably violent sound every time you used it, which was normally every 4-6 secs. the best way to describe it is it sounded like your pet was using their bones as mouthwash.

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Kill Command

Kill Command

Talent

30 Focus	50 yd range

Instant	7.5 sec recharge

1 Charges

Give the command to kill, causing your pet to savagely deal [Attack power * 1.29 * 1 * 1 * 1 * 1 * 1 * (1 + Versatility) * 1] Physical damage to the enemy.

Spell Details

Duration

n/a

School

Physical

Mechanic

n/a

Dispel type

n/a

GCD category

Normal

Cost

30 Focus

Range

50 yards (Extended)

Cast time

Instant

Cooldown

500 milliseconds

GCD

1.5 seconds

Effect #1

Dummy
Value: 1
PVP Multiplier: 1
Server-side script

Effect #2

Dummy
Value: 129
PVP Multiplier: 1
Server-side script

Flags

Is Ability
Cannot be used while shapeshifted
Do Not Sheath
Cannot be dodged, parried or blocked
Initiates Combat (Enabled Auto-Attack)
Generates no threat
Require All Targets
Discount Power On Miss
No Aura Icon
Hide Channel Bar
Not an Attack
Taps immediately
Do Not Auto Select Target with Initiates Combat
Allow Class Ability Procs
Prevent Jumping During Precast

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