Outlaw Rogue: First Impression of the New Outlaw Talent Trees in Dragonflight

Dragonflight Publié 07/08/2022 à 05:15 par JustGuy

To learn about the best PvE talent builds in Dragonflight for this class, and export these builds into the game, please check out our Assassination, Outlaw, and Subtlety Rogue class guides:
Assassination Rogue Talent BuildsOutlaw Rogue Talent BuildsSubtlety Rogue Talent BuildsOutlaw Rogue Dragonflight Class TreeOutlaw Rogue Dragonflight Talents - What's New?Pas de l’ombreGrappinMal-ferrant RaznalGrappinPas de l’ombreDanse de l’ombreEmbuscadeDécouverte des faiblessesRéprimande retentissanteOutlaw Rogue Dragonflight Talent Tree - First ImpressionsParcimonieEmbuscade amélioréeEmbuscadeVigueurDestin scellé

View on Dragonflight Talent TreeVigueurParcimonieRéprimande retentissanteEmpressementEmpressementEmpressementEmpressementStratagème approfondiEmpressementDanse de l’ombreLétalitéEmbuscadeDécouverte des faiblessesDéluge de lamesDécouverte des faiblessesEmbuscadeRuptureEntre les deux yeuxDécouverte des faiblessesOutlaw Rogue Spec TreeOutlaw Rogue Talents for Raiding - What's New?

Botte secrète - While this talent seems very exciting to those who remember how powerful this old Azerite Trait was, it's missing the most important part of the old version. The important part of this azerite trait was never the "reload" effect, but was because it caused your Entre les deux yeux to deal increased damage. The actually "reload" effect is actually quite low impact so I'm going to say that this talent is equally low impact.

Entaille vive - Pretty generic good talent. Attack speed leads to increased Botte fatale which means more energy. In addition melee hits are a huge part of Outlaws damage so this talent is just great overall, even if a bit boring.

Gros cogneur - This talent effectively turns your Embuscade into a mini version of Réprimande retentissante which might sound cool on paper, I don't think really works with how Danse de l’ombre wants you to play. Due to the fact that your rotation becomes very strict within the Danse de l’ombre burst windows, you don't really have a lot of time to react and respond to the combo point that you get from it meaning you are going to overlap a lot of these procs and they will go to waste. I love the integration of the Réprimande retentissante effect into the core of the spec, but I don't think this is the place to put it.

Audace - This is a really cute talent that has a lot of nice synergy with a lot stuff in the tree. This has synergy with Moulinet au marteau causing you to generate additional Occasion procs at once. This has obvious synergy with Irritant aéroporté making it proc more often. This talent likely gets skipped for the full Danse de l’ombre builds but for builds focusing on the right side of the tree this can be great to get additional Calcul des probabilités procs.

Pris par surprise - Very powerful talent for Danse de l’ombre focused builds. It's just a huge amount of stats for basically no cost, not much else to say.

Opportunité cachée - The biggest, and most impactful part of this talent is making it so Embuscade now can proc Occasion which can potentially help a large amount with energy related issues that might come up with spamming such an expensive builder in such a short window.

Équipage sans repos - This is an extremely controversial talent, this turns Outlaw Rogue to a CDR battery which is almost like a Gardiens faë effect which can apply to the entire party. This can easily be extremely powerful with making raid comps with 4 strong classes with such an effect and using this talent to fuel them to potentially very strong levels. Something to note is that concept was theorized during Shadowlands alpha with Gardiens faë but never got to the degenerate levels that people were theorizing, so I also wouldn't be surprised if it never happens here either but it's something to pay attention to for sure.

Exécution sommaire - Another simple yet effective talent. Effectively reads "Couperet does more damage, and costs less energy." Very important for any build focusing on finishers.

Osselets relancés - This is a very strange talent that I can see being deceptively powerful. While a 5 minute cooldown sounds like an infinite duration of time but it is on Lames sans repos so it's closer to a 2~ minute cooldown give or take. This also does work Calcul des probabilités buffs so the use case is to use Danse de l’ombre, generate a bunch of Calcul des probabilités buffs from this, and then have 3-5 buffs rolling and then cast Osselets relancés to get a huge duration on a large amount of buffs. Very slept on talent overall.

Septicémie - While most people seem to have an issue with this talent, due to Night Fae being never the best option through all of Shadowlands. There are 2 big changes that make this much more appealing with a new Dragonflight talent tree, the main thing is it being added to Lames sans repos, the other huge part is the free cast of Embuscade which has loads of synergy on the tree. So it's a spell with a short cooldown, does lots of damage, and has synergy with the tree, honestly a personal favourite of mine if I'm being honest.

Entailles précises - I love this talent honestly, I think it's a really unique way to incorperate the target cap into the specs core identity. Seems strong for any cleave related content, specifically those unter the target cap of course. This also has synergy with the talent above it, Danse d’acier which increases the target cap by 3 meaning its even easier to get the big Entailles précises damage increase to be active.

Moulinet au marteau - Incredible talent for overall energy efficiency. Occasion procs are already huge for energy efficiency and generating 3x as many any time you get a proc is going to cause you to skip out on so many energy related talents because this talent covers most of your issues. One small issue with this talent is the overall low duration, which was just increased last alpha patch actually but probably needs to get increased a bit more. Due to the fact that it allows you to store up to 6 Occasion at once you are less incentivised to spend them as soon as you get them, but due to the fact that the duration for the buff is so short, you kind of have to quickly weave them in as quick as possible before losing potentially 2 or more procs at once. Maybe every time you cast Coup de pistolet it refreshes the duration of the stacks?

EmbuscadeMoulinet au marteauAudaceDanse de l’ombreDanse de l’ombreExécution sommaireJet d’osseletsCalcul des probabilitésDés pipésOsselets relancésMoulinet au marteauTireur rapideEntre les deux yeuxOsier de VertepeauCoup de pistoletOutlaw Rogue Dragonflight Talent Tree - First Impressions

Gros cogneur - Due to clashing playstyles with Danse de l’ombre

Découverte des faiblesses - With the way the talent currently function, this just turns Outlaw into an Assassination Rogue in cleave content, which just doesn't sound fun to me.

Exécution sommaire - While incredibly strong, are a bit boring and could use some spicing up just to make the tree a little more standout.

Botte secrète - As mentioned earlier, the effect of getting a refund of combo points whenever you cast Entre les deux yeux is incredibly low impact, it gives you only around 8-12 combo points in a 5 minute fight, borderline irrelevant, the % chance should be much higher.

Clarté résonnante - This is on the rogue side of the tree, but this talent probably shouldn't be a 2 rank point, this should just be a 1 rank that highlights all 4 combo points, this will make it a much more appealing talent to go overall.

Thé de chardon - This is also on the Rogue side of the tree, but this effect just sucks. It's a cute callback to classic, but the game has gotten much more in depth where +100 energy isn't going to cut it as a talent. I'm unsure what bonus effect could be added to this, maybe a % decrease to energy cost of all skills for x seconds after consuming to potentially push it as an all in energy talent.

Ambidextrie & Main gauche améliorée - Anybody who has played Outlaw for a decent amount of time is aware that Mastery sucks, neither of these talents make Mastery a more appealing stat. Just make these numbers larger, and maybe fix some of the bugs related to Mastery and these talents will be more sought after.

Danse de l’ombre

View on Dragonflight Talent TreeDanse de l’ombreOsselets relancésCalcul des probabilitésPris par surpriseLames sans reposOsselets relancés

View on Dragonflight Talent TreeDéluge de lamesLames d’effroiLames sans reposAudaceMoulinet au marteauLames d’effroiDanse de l’ombreDestin scelléLames sans reposFinal Thoughts on the Outlaw Rogue Talent TreesDéluge de lames

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