Why We're In Pandaria - Eternus, the Infinite, and a New Perspective on the Past

PTR Posted 2024/05/07 at 8:28 AM by DiscordianKitty

Mists of PandariaEternus, the Friendly InfiniteNozdormu: But you reminded me, Eternus, that compassion must be considered. Some events are worth changing because our hearts wish it so. On that, I agree with the infinites.Mists of PandariaObserving the "True Timeline"Mists of PandariaMistsMists of PandariaWhen Nozdormu showed me that my sister's death was her choice--her sacrifice--it made me question the rest of the "true timeline." What other moments of sorrow or anger had life-saving consequences?
When the mists of Pandaria patted, the Horde and Alliance brought their conflict to these shores and awoke a slumbering evil. But... perhaps it was all necessary to bring about a brighter future.
It is time to reflect on the past with a new perspective. That is why I am here, along with those of the infinite dragonflight whom I could convince to join me.

Does this mean you believe in the true timeline now?

I remain skeptical of Nozdormu's faith in it, but I am willing to give his wisdom the benefit of the doubt.
Help us or leave us to our work.

What is my mission?

Relive this timeline so that we may observe its events from a new perspective.
We will be watching you.

What will be different?

We will equip you with an artifact of the infinite. A cloak that adapts and changes as you do.
Nozdormu is opposed to altering the past, But we are not doing so. are we? The events that transpire here will remain the same.
It is you who will be different.

The bombing of Theramore - where Jaina's home town was completely destroyed and many of her people died. This event led to a hatred in Jaina for the Horde that is only recently begun to cool.

The theft of the Divine Bell and subsequent purging of Dalaran - when Jaina discovered Sunreavers (Blood Elf members of the Kirin Tor) had helped Garrosh steal a relic called the Divine Bell, she violently purged them from Dalaran in a bloody retribution.

A confrontation between Garrosh and Anduin, during which Garrosh crushed the young Prince and left him so broken it was believed he might die. To this day, Anduin's bones cause him pain.

Several devastating events in Pandaria, including a great amount of death, war, and destruction. One of the most notable is the corruption of the Vale of Eternal Blossoms - a sacred valley to the Pandaren that was desecrated by the unearthing of the Heart of Y'Shaarj.

The Siege of Orgrimmar, where Horde fought against Horde on the streets of Orgrimmar.

Wrathion's decision to back Garrosh after Varian decided not to crush the Horde - a decision that arguably caused the events of Warlords of Draenor and Legion.

A New Perspective?War WithinMists of Pandaria

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Comment by VennerusNozdormu was cringe in DF.

Cool event. Looking forward to giga-levelling and the Class mog.Comment by JoshmaulBeloved expansion? That's not usually the impression I get. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Pandaria just fine. Still do, if I'm honest. But when it was announced, there was constant screaming about "Kung Fu Panda", or the constant inclination towards "furries" (which started with the addition of worgen and came up again with vulpera), and people whining for years - before, during, and after the expansion - about Blizzard "making an April Fools' joke into canon", under the misunderstanding that the entire pandaren race was an April Fools' joke. They weren't. Adding them as a playable faction in Warcraft III - that was the April Fools' joke.Comment by GoblinaireFinally get to see Vale of Eternal Blossoms before the corruptionComment by saiadarWonder if the Garrosh fanboys remember all the horrible stuff he did this expansion who try and say he did nothing wrong.

Beloved expansion? That's not usually the impression I get. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Pandaria just fine. Still do, if I'm honest. But when it was announced, there was constant screaming about "Kung Fu Panda", or the constant inclination towards "furries" (which started with the addition of worgen and came up again with vulpera), and people whining for years - before, during, and after the expansion - about Blizzard "making an April Fools' joke into canon", under the misunderstanding that the entire pandaren race was an April Fools' joke. They weren't. Adding them as a playable faction in Warcraft III - that was the April Fools' joke.Comment by westomoprestoAll for more events like this and less like plunderstorm since this has actual substance rather than a basic cut and dry BR attempt. Excited to see how it goes!Comment by BerettaNEWarriorWrathion's decision to back Garrosh after Varian decided not to crush the Horde - a decision that arguably caused the events of Warlords of Draenor and Legion.The Burning. Comment by lovelywazWhile it was a great read that I really enjoyed, one thing is for sure!

That said, Pandamonium is not about changing the events of Mists of Pandaria - It's about observing them.grinding for the rewardsComment by furos72WoD next please!
Because basically it's nothing new that you can play in retail.
Leveling, dungeons and raids are particular strengths of WoD.Comment by GamerdogwoofAll for more events like this and less like plunderstorm since this has actual substance rather than a basic cut and dry BR attempt. Excited to see how it goes!Comment by hissycatthe most ridiculous thing is that everyone hated "kung -fu pandas" but the "furry uwu" hype with vulperas is something really cool to most ppl :PComment by AovaI dig the lore tie-in! It makes the content relevant to the game in its current state even though we all know it's a separate event. Just this relatively small effort shows that they can go further than the junk sideshow that was Blunderstorm.

Now they just need to make the bold move of bringing back the CM and AotC mounts!Comment by PleegWatIt's most likely that observing the timeline will have the same results for Eternus that learning more about her sister's death didComment by LautnerWell maybe we could at least prevent Garrosh from getting the dark heart of an old god. We could use the Infinite dragonflight to steal it before he uses it. That would surely fix everything.Comment by LautnerAll for more events like this and less like plunderstorm since this has actual substance rather than a basic cut and dry BR attempt. Excited to see how it goes!Comment by MeAjurI'm still disappointed that we won't be able to go through the Wrathion storyline. For a game mode that's supposed to let us relive the "true timeline," it's falling quite short in that regard, along with the Vale storyline.Comment by MeAjurIt's most likely that observing the timeline will have the same results for Eternus that learning more about her sister's death didComment by Raynurui wish we would get playable Hozen and Jinyu from this event.
They have a much deeper introduction to their factions than the Pandaren from the Wandering Island which decided upon some words to fully abandon their families and friends if they joined the other faction.

Meanwhile Jinyu are saved by the Alliance, getting trained in the fighting ways of the Alliance and some of their customs and backstory.

Same for the Hozen who get saved and build up by the Horde to be proper fighters, get training and prove their mettle all the way to be even a thing still today.

I will never forget that Hozen Vanguard who still gets summoned trough the Orgrimmar Portal in Zandalar to this day, joining the training and then heads of to fight for the Horde.
You might have to wait a bit, but he is still there, doing his part!Comment by RaynuruIt's most likely that observing the timeline will have the same results for Eternus that learning more about her sister's death didComment by NamemeSomethingI DO wish it had lore tie-ins though. Lemme at least go to that pirate port. Could put some dailies there or something for extra renown next time.Comment by MarkybigtentI started playing WoW in Pandaria and so I am looking forward to this. S4 is just the same dungeons and fated raids for the most-part and so it's clear that most of the effort is being put into other mini-xp's rather than new DF content.

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