Why We're In Pandaria - Eternus, the Infinite, and a New Perspective on the Past

PTR Posted 2024/05/07 at 8:28 AM by DiscordianKitty

Mists of PandariaEternus, the Friendly InfiniteNozdormu: But you reminded me, Eternus, that compassion must be considered. Some events are worth changing because our hearts wish it so. On that, I agree with the infinites.Mists of PandariaObserving the "True Timeline"Mists of PandariaMistsMists of PandariaWhen Nozdormu showed me that my sister's death was her choice--her sacrifice--it made me question the rest of the "true timeline." What other moments of sorrow or anger had life-saving consequences?
When the mists of Pandaria patted, the Horde and Alliance brought their conflict to these shores and awoke a slumbering evil. But... perhaps it was all necessary to bring about a brighter future.
It is time to reflect on the past with a new perspective. That is why I am here, along with those of the infinite dragonflight whom I could convince to join me.

Does this mean you believe in the true timeline now?

I remain skeptical of Nozdormu's faith in it, but I am willing to give his wisdom the benefit of the doubt.
Help us or leave us to our work.

What is my mission?

Relive this timeline so that we may observe its events from a new perspective.
We will be watching you.

What will be different?

We will equip you with an artifact of the infinite. A cloak that adapts and changes as you do.
Nozdormu is opposed to altering the past, But we are not doing so. are we? The events that transpire here will remain the same.
It is you who will be different.

The bombing of Theramore - where Jaina's home town was completely destroyed and many of her people died. This event led to a hatred in Jaina for the Horde that is only recently begun to cool.

The theft of the Divine Bell and subsequent purging of Dalaran - when Jaina discovered Sunreavers (Blood Elf members of the Kirin Tor) had helped Garrosh steal a relic called the Divine Bell, she violently purged them from Dalaran in a bloody retribution.

A confrontation between Garrosh and Anduin, during which Garrosh crushed the young Prince and left him so broken it was believed he might die. To this day, Anduin's bones cause him pain.

Several devastating events in Pandaria, including a great amount of death, war, and destruction. One of the most notable is the corruption of the Vale of Eternal Blossoms - a sacred valley to the Pandaren that was desecrated by the unearthing of the Heart of Y'Shaarj.

The Siege of Orgrimmar, where Horde fought against Horde on the streets of Orgrimmar.

Wrathion's decision to back Garrosh after Varian decided not to crush the Horde - a decision that arguably caused the events of Warlords of Draenor and Legion.

A New Perspective?War WithinMists of Pandaria

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Comment by BrazenchaseThis is actually a really cool lore explanation and I'm enjoying this exploration of the Infinites that we're getting.

Nice one, Blizz!Comment by XimuAll for more events like this and less like plunderstorm since this has actual substance rather than a basic cut and dry BR attempt. Excited to see how it goes!Comment by GoblinaireI'm still disappointed that we won't be able to go through the Wrathion storyline. For a game mode that's supposed to let us relive the "true timeline," it's falling quite short in that regard, along with the Vale storyline.Comment by krawwI was absent during this expansion, so I am truly excited to be a part of reliving this with Eternus and hopefully understanding why these events had to happen!Comment by HiyorinI really like giving these kinda things just a little bit of story to spice things up. I loved handing in a scourgestone for the Old Naxxramas entry and having the Argent Dawn flip the heck outComment by Stormbringer4190so does anyone know how hard the raids will be? IMO they should never be that hard than when they were actual content so people can finish these in short time (also thinking about retail raid schedules)Comment by davedwthoAll for more events like this and less like plunderstorm since this has actual substance rather than a basic cut and dry BR attempt. Excited to see how it goes!Comment by Olympus3129This could be what pushes Nozdormu to turn into Murozond. That one quest line we did already had him convinced maybe it’s okay to change the timeline. This could further encourage that behavior by him and the rest of the Bronze and be what leads him starting the Infinite Dragonflight. To everyone screaming that would retcon what is supposed to happen it really wouldn’t. The Titans say old gods made him turn into Murozond but it’s already proven that the Titans love to lie about pretty much everything. They definitely wouldn’t have told the truth about this situation. So why not blame it on your enemies? It would honestly be more exciting for us to be responsible for it then just another thing to blame on old godsComment by ZamfixTo everyone screaming that would retcon what is supposed to happen it really wouldn’t. The Titans say old gods made him turn into Murozond but it’s already proven that the Titans love to lie about pretty much everything.Comment by johntravolta342All for more events like this and less like plunderstorm since this has actual substance rather than a basic cut and dry BR attempt. Excited to see how it goes!Comment by DeadarthAll for more events like this and less like plunderstorm since this has actual substance rather than a basic cut and dry BR attempt. Excited to see how it goes!Comment by Jinokunis it just me or is lore getting gradually better in the last few months?
Idk but I feel like we were building a very solid core in the last few updates that now ushers in the new Saga very goodComment by DracoCordraconisThe rediscovery of Pandaria set off a whole lot more events, actually:

Sparing Garrosh after all he has done in Pandaria gave him the chance to escape to the past and create Alternate Draenor to continue pursuing his mad and twisted plans. (Warlords of Draenor)

While Garrosh died during WoD, it brought up Alternate Gul'dan, who - just like his original self - immediately set siege on Azeroth with the Burning Legion, triggering the third invasion of the Burning Legion on Azeroth. (Legion)

While Gul'dan and the Burning Legion were stopped by us once more, and apparently for good (mostly), the death of the titan soul Argus derailed the Arbiter of the Shadowlands, triggering the next step in Zovaal's intricate plan to reform the world in his way. (Shadowlands)

Battle for AzerothComment by TwoTastyTicTacsis it just me or is lore getting gradually better in the last few months?
Idk but I feel like we were building a very solid core in the last few updates that now ushers in the new Saga very goodComment by BlackDragonAJ89Meanwhile I was just thinking this was Blizzard trying show a certain animation studio that "no, we actually made the Martial Arts Chinese Ursine thing popular first and did it better."

Regardless, Mists is still my favorite expac and the reason why I got into WoW in the first place; it's going to be nice to revisit it.Comment by BrockpI like the idea of incorporating MoP into the story of the current/new expansion... I really do. I like the idea and it shows Blizz is thinking outside their usual box. Exploring the timeline in a cool way like this. That said, I'm not sure that I like feeling the need to play Pandamonium to experience that or explore that side of things. I don't have any interest in playing it.Comment by Angeslowis it just me or is lore getting gradually better in the last few months?
Idk but I feel like we were building a very solid core in the last few updates that now ushers in the new Saga very goodComment by PandaabearAll for more events like this and less like plunderstorm since this has actual substance rather than a basic cut and dry BR attempt. Excited to see how it goes!but I think the problem is more than likely rooted in how those teams are structured and executedComment by hobbidaggyInteresting how mists introduced us to the Sha…a leftover side effect from killing Y'Shaarj.

Could this be a way for them to refresh everyone on what happened last time an old god was “killed” or just to remind people of Y'Shaarj in generalComment by VhaiusFinally get to see Vale of Eternal Blossoms before the corruption

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